I still think we're going to be over budget. Let's see where the main problems are...It's the Conference Centre fees that are the problem. The main conference room is ￡300 a day, so that's ￡600 for the two days. Extra rooms -- they're ￡140 each . We've got four extra rooms, haven't we, so that's eight times ￡140, which is...￡1,120. Giving a total of ￡1,720. This seems much more expensive than last year. Have you got last year's figures with you? No, but I remember that we only paid them about ￡1,500 last time. Do you want me to get in touch with them again? Good idea! Let's look at the other problem items. The speaker...￡2,000 seems a lot! Who's coming? I think Eva Hanson has accepted . We have to find someone at the last minute because the original speaker dropped out. Oh, I saw her speak last month in Copenhagen. She's very good, actually. She's only staying for one night, so that keeps the hotel bill down a bit. OK. How did you calculate the cost of the conference packs?